Best part of this story: It marks the return to the Patriot of Greta "Iron Maiden" Twombly.
What went down (as far as we can tell): The VP of the CD's, Jessi Gordon, resigned because of other time commitments and a lack of a desire to finish out the year. Fine, whatever.
The president of the CD's, Peter Weiss, decides that he wants to promote 'Executive Assistant' Twombly to the post. Twombly, you may recall, had run for CD Vice Chair and lost the election.
Matt Ingoglia, the communications director, raises some dispute about this idea.
Apparently, the succession rules aren't very clear, and there was confusion about what to do. Ingoglia thought he had a legitimate claim to the VP slot, but he lost a 7-4 vote in the eboard, and Twombs became the VP.
Ingoglia resigns and takes Maggie Rousseau, the "Assistant Off-Campus Activism Director", with him. Facebook informs me that they are a couple, so this is not altogether unsurprising.
So there you have it, intrigue and divisiveness at the very highest levels of the CD eBoard. Interesting stuff.
There's obviously more to this story. I think I have only a very cursory grasp of what went down. If any anonymous commenters want to fill us in, feel free.
******UPDATE******
A source close to the situation sends along a chronology of events:
Peter Weiss (CD President) wanted Greta to be his Vice President
Jessi Gordon won the Vice President election
Peter delegated responsibilities of Vice President to "executive assistant" Greta Twombly
Jessi resigns in protest
Matt Ingoglia thinks he's entitled to the post
Eboard disagrees, Matt resigns, takes Maggie with him.
Further resignations probably coming.
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Rousseau was supposed to lead a trip to New Jersey this weekend (paid for by the Corzine campaign). Wonder what'll happen.
The B*tch is back
hahahaha that "b*tch* suuucks
with that bitch at the helm of the organization, good luck to the cds this year...there's a reason she lost the election in the first place...
From what I heard it wasn't the succession that was the issue- apparently Greta took the campaign trip responsibility from Maggie Rousseau long ago without her approval and Ingoglia didn't want to work with people who thought that was acceptable. That's what a CR told me, anyway.
so its not just the sa with fucked up elections
So all these people gone from the CD eboard because one guy doesn't give a ****
Not surprising
is it too late to join yaf?
So...College Dems version of YAF, coming soon to a campus near you?
It's never too late to join YAF.
Appropriate action was clearly taken...
Matt didn't resign because he thought himself entitled to the post- he thought that Peter broke the Constitution by giving Maggie's work to Greta
This is absurd. After everything Amelia and Cory did to save face of the tarnished organization. From the bottom, to student org of the year, to the bitter bottom again. Amelia must be flipping out.
they should go deface some crosses to make themselves feel better
Damn looks like the CD executive board is falling apart.
In many ways I blame the shitty leadership of Peter. That guy shouldn't be President of the CDs and him bending the rules of their constitution doesn't help his situation. I do enjoy hearing about Greta the "Iron Maiden." It seems like she just got caught up in some CD drama.
BREAKING NEWS:
GRETA TWOMBLY EATS PETER WEISS, BECOMES PRESIDENT.
It seems to me that Greta has nothing to do with this whole shitstorm. I agree with the Anon 2 above me that it seems more an issue of procedure.
Reading the CDs' Constitution (buried deep in their website) you can see that the Executive Assistant is meant to handle secretarial jobs and "special projectS". The Off-Campus position is specifically tasked with handling campaign trips- which is where I believe Peter messed up.
The CDs ought to at the very least clarify what "Special Projects" means lest this scenario repeat itself later.
Greta lost twice for Vice-President. Peter & Greta both resented the fact that she didn't win.
Greta is appointed Executive Assistant....and I can only imagine the gradual pushing out of Jessi Gordon that occurred.
Peter gladly appoints Greta to be Vice-President, using the ambiguity of the by-laws to screw Matt Ingoglia over. In reality, Matt was elected twice by the CD's and would have brought a higher profile and media savvy to the entire operation.
the problem has to do a lot with the CD organization as a whole. They've been on a downward spiral since my freshmen year and it seems like this will only continue unless they get some fresh faces and ideas. I think Jessi being gone is a great step towards fixing this organization.
Get over yourselves. Jessi resigned because she had too much to do. Greta took her place. If Matt wanted to be VP so bad he should have run for it in the first place. When you resign you don't get to appoint your sucessor under any bylaws. Sorry
The CD's just got Obama's campaign manager, thats pretty impressive
plouffe looked like such a loser on their posters haha
it really seems like people are trying to make this about greta, i think it's about peter and how he consolidated power by giving people's jobs to his friend. sounds to me like matt was tired of watching this, so he left.
i think peter would do well to ask him to come back and promise to fix the unclear bylaws, though i don't expect either one to understand and trust each other.
Looks like Greta read the article @Anonymousposterat2:07pm
GOD I love anonymous comments, especially when they come from the very people we're all talking about as if we know everything that has ever happened to them, ever.
All I can say is this is what happens when you have executive CZARS USURPING the the power of elected officials! I'm writing to Glenn!
Seriously though, I love gates. This is a great gate. A Great Greta Gate.
secondrain.blogspot.com
Get over yourselves. Jessi resigned because she had too much to do. Greta took her place. If Matt wanted to be VP so bad he should have run for it in the first place. When you resign you don't get to appoint your sucessor under any bylaws. Sorry
The CD's just got Obama's campaign manager, thats pretty impressive
Peter!
There is a fucking order of succession in the constitution you assholes.
President -> Vice President -> Political Affairs -> Communications
Emma was next in line, then Matt. But certainly not that satan succubus who is mother fucking LAST in line to succeed anybody's ass.
-blago out
thanks for coming back Blago.
This is an open forum, but I ask for at least for some level of decorum. You are giving Tokyo Rose Twombly far too much credit here. I think it seems that Peter was just engaging in some small-time cronyism and should be the real one to blame.
First of all, this isn't really a story. It's pointless and pretty much irrelevant. The CDs will STILL have a great year. WE have awesome programming lined up.
Second, all this speculation can stop. Jessi resigned because she had taken on too many commitments for the year. She also said that it had nothing to do with anyone on the CD eboard, that she simple changed and her priorities were different.
Matt, being power hungry and overly ambitious took a stand so that he could become VP. (He wanted to be president, doubt that will happen now) He used his girlfriends issues as sole justification for doing so. He tried to scare the rest of the eboard into believing a hyperbolized version about what would happen if Greta became VP, but the rest of the board saw through his childish and frankly stupid plan. He and Maggie both resigned out of sheer spite. It was a dramatic evening to say the least.
So who is passing out the CD talking points on this? because we've heard the exact same story in about five comments.
Peter violated the constitution! He didnt consult any prior boards or the former president about "missing succession paragraphs"... How convenient that it just disappeared like that...
So maybe you could appoint someone who, procedurally speaking, is not eligible. Appointed members cannot be promoted to an elected position - that would necessitate an election.
oh, and IMPEACH HIM.
Definitely agree with Hunter (not often) on this, looks like the CDs have released their talking points and are having the eboard push around the comments.
Judging from the comments here, one or more of the CD executive board members has been anonymously commenting on this. Interesting.
Just because you like Greta doesn't mean she didn't do anything in this situation, Hunter.
After all, at the end of the day, who has benefited the most here?
Based on what we actually know Mr.Weiss is the MOST wrong in this situation. Now, I have no doubt that Greta used her ball-crushing ways to get her position, but that is just really speculation at the end of it.
How is Weiss the most wrong? All Greta had to say was 'I don't think I should be VP', and no controversy happens.
If you tell me to shoot some guy, and I shoot him, sure, we're both in the wrong. But the person who pulls the trigger is more wrong.
exactly, and Peter pulled the trigger.
Oh, I missed the part where Peter ran for Vice President.
No, I mean in the sense that he was the one who decided to promote her. Instead of going by the order set out (or, kinda set out)
No matter how you slice up the blame, both are in the wrong.
Weiss should not have offered Greta the position in the first place.
Greta should not have accepted the position.
However, I would argue at that point that Greta may have supremely embarrassed Weiss had she not accepted the position. At that point, doing damage control, it depends on who you want to take the fall...
She accepts the position: CD eboard members start leaving and the whole organization looks like they just generally don't have their act together.
She declines the position: Weiss is exposed for the nepot he is and Greta looks like she may be slightly honest.
So how it is now is the whole CD organization is taking the fall for Weiss.
hunter, did you sleep with greta along with the rest of the hatchet?
wow, we figured it all out without ever being present for any one of these hypothetical situations. we ought to be on CSI: GW
Its called speculation Eshawn. And you sure are up on your high horse condemning us for it.
I can tell everyone for a fact:
VP resignation had nothing to do with Greta. She had other commitments and her heart wasn't in the organization anymore.
Off-Campus resigned because she felt her responsibilities had been taken from her.
Comm resigned because he objected to Greta being named VP.
No one else is going to resign. Everyone who had a problem has resigned already.
And why should we trust you "Trust Me"?
It's already a non-story, but Trust Me and inreality are right. Off-Campus director left because Peter gave Greta all her work, and Communications director resigned because he thought that was bullshit.
Doesn't anyone else think it's fishy that the procedures for filling an elected position that has become vacant are suspiciously absent from the Constitution that's on the GWCDs' webpage, even when last year's board had to read the Constitution and vote on it?
Either last year's board didn't read up or Peter tinkered with the copy on the site to make naming Iron Maiden easier.
You're right Tom, and I'm so sorry. I'll dismount while you heroically speculate for the good of the campus and all that is True.
"This is absurd. After everything Amelia and Cory did to save face of the tarnished organization. From the bottom, to student org of the year, to the bitter bottom again. Amelia must be flipping out"
Yeah, sponsoring a cross vandalization after an E-board meeting and riding Obama's coat-tails really saved the face.
-A Nonny Mouse
Jessi did in fact resign because of greta (because greta is a bad person and only cares about herself) and because of prior commitments and because Weiss is a shitty leader.
I love that Peter and Greta were the very ones last year who couldn't stop talking about how horrible the CD Eboard was. They haven't even made it a month on the job.
As for Matt and Rousseau, I would never in my life work for Weiss or the Iron Maiden so i don't blame them for leaving, whatever the circumstances. What poor excuses for President and VP they are. I realize matt "threw a fit" but at least he was elected. It seems to me that in CDs, no matter how many times you lose, as long as you are kissing the ass of Peter Weiss, you can get whatever leadership position you like.
What an entertaining shit show. I can't wait to see how this unfolds.
Gretagate part 2?
Eshawn, when did I ever claim speculation was heroic? Its just what we do... That's the fun part of this...
I was taking the information presented and going through the logical possibilities based on the emotional responses to the situation exhibited by the CD eboard.
Okay dude! I concede your superior logic! You have fun speculating, I'll have fun ridiculing you for it.
Eshawn,
its ok, you don't have to be the CDs apology-boy all the time.
The smartest person here is Matt, though he made a risky decision and essentially seems to be betting on the board falling short this year.
If that happens, he's got a great case to come back as a fixer-upper who helped lead the CDs to org of the year status. Some of the P&G loyalists on the board won't have a leg to stand on in that race.
Wow! I thought it was bad when the election was bought a few years ago, but apparently the drama just keeps on coming with the CD eboard. Also, for the record, Cory/Amelia did not inherit any tarnished organization. That would be the president a few years earlier,Sean.
But they pay me so well for it.
Anonymous said...
Wow! I thought it was bad when the election was bought a few years ago, but apparently the drama just keeps on coming with the CD eboard. Also, for the record, Cory/Amelia did not inherit any tarnished organization. That would be the president a few years earlier,Sean.
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For the record, the election two years ago was not bought. However, Cory and Amelia did inherit a tarnished organization because the people who lost saw it fit to explain their loss with that very lie: that the election was a fraud - which was undeniably tarnishing.
And, not that it matters really, but the organization was in a really shitty place in 2007-2008 and probably would not have done as well as it did this year had someone not "stolen" the organization away from the cliquely little posers who ran/now run it.
It doesn't seem like they're letting any of this affect them. They just staged a sold-out event with Obama's campaign manager, and they have Michael Moore coming next week. Looks like a great year so far...so why is any of this relevant?
This all happened Plouffe and Moore were booked. So, I guess we'll see how it goes.
Moore was not booked yet.
And Comm and Off-Campus have nothing to do with speakers anyway.
@Joshua
It's relevant because Peter is going to get away with bending the constitution to his whims because the board is full of ambitious rubberstampers and the only people who could have stood up to him did the right thing and resigned.
It is a sad commentary when I am no longer surprised by the absolutely stupid shit that the CDs do and act like it is perfectly acceptable.
Have a person you don't like/ disagree with? Take a page from Peter Weiss' play book and secretly strip them of their power and give it to one of your cronies.
Forced to choose between your own personal political gain and the good of the team-at-large? Pull a Weiss and oust everyone with a shred of competence and replace them with your yes-men friends.
Worried people will notice that you are a narcissist with the decision making abilities of a five year old? Be like Weiss and feign indignity and then take solace in the comforting affirmations of your slobbering, caveman yes-man "assistant." It is okay that your "special assistant" only has a single neuron and has the unique distinction of being universally hated.
Worried that the aforementioned, universally hated cretin is unable to win an election? That's okay, despite being totally unelectable and losing 2 elections if your Weiss you can always exploit a vague clause in the Constitution and defy the will of the voters but get your man in an "elected" position through the power of appointment!
Weiss et. al are scum. Twombly looks like, and has the intelligence of, a cave troll. And the CDs now make Blagojevich look ethical.
@lol
Agreed. Matt ought to run for President and make this cronyism his number one argument against whatever clown Peter handpicks to succeed him. Remember how hard it was for McCain to shake Bush's ghost? That's how easy it'll be for Matt or anyone with a shred of competence for that matter to whoop them.
@lol and @lmao
It's amazing how passionate and wrong people can be at the same time about something they don't understand.
@anonymous
they're actually spot-on for the most part. you're probably new to the organization and don't understand the history.
identify yourself by name, whoever wrote the last four comments. I am suspicious that the CD eboard is spamming the comments
Anon@9:59am sounds like someone on the board who doesn't like being called one of Peter's cronies. I'd get used to it if I were them.
The other ones could easily be board members, but it's more likely that they're graduated and just following it for laughs.
I'm excited that the CD Eboard/ their friends are so in to a Patriot post.
greta is ugly.
ad hominem is uncalled for and immature.
@patterson
greta is uncalled for and immature
Anonymous comments are immature.
Matt Ingoglia himself will be giving his point of view on the entire situation this Saturday on WRGW's "The Political Pulse"
We plan to keep it the discussion civil and straight forward. We simply want his side of the story honestly laid out and the rumor mongering put to rest.
I hope to keep the discussion civil and if you'd like to listen it will be from 4pm-6pm on gwradio.com
Also there will be interviews of one of the Lost Boys of Sudan and Vice President Walter Mondale. So tune in for interviews of real national/international politics and policy.
Political Pulse: Getting one side of the story, even if it's the person who I happen to think is in the right, will never stop rumormongering.
True Logan, but keeping silent only feeds the beast and makes them feel justified in what they do.
Though I agree with Logan on principle, quite frankly I really couldn't care less what anyone on Peter's side has to say. As a senior, I'm about sick of listening to the the pro-Greta at all costs crowd.
Someone else '10
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